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Deborah James’ mother reveals moving late night chat they shared days before her death

Dame Deborah James’ mother has revealed today how her daughter who gave her energy and time to campaign even in her final moments confided in her that she ‘did not want to die’ in a moving late night chat days before her death. 

Speaking for the first time about the tragic loss of her child in June, Heather James also told how the Bowel Babe campaigner had ‘no regrets’ as they spoke around a week before died after a five year struggle with bowel cancer. 

The final four weeks of the 40-year-old’s life saw her raise an incredible £7million for cancer research, get made a dame for her ‘tireless’ work by Prince William, and go on outings, like a trip to Royal Ascot. 

Ms James said during this period the family – father Alistair, husband Sebastien and two children, 14-year-old Hugo and 12-year-old Eloise – spent some of their ‘best days’ with Deborah ‘even though she died at the end of it’.

Known by her Instagram handle, Bowelgran, she also said that she could not have ‘coped’ without the support for her daughter’s legacy which includes a clothing range, a second book, which is due to come out in two days, and encouraging thousands to get tested for bowel cancer with the NHS. 

Dame Deborah James' mother has revealed how the Bowelbabe campaigner told her she 'did not want to die' a matter of days before her death

Deborah in the hospital

Dame Deborah James’ mother Heather (left) has revealed how the Bowelbabe campaigner (right) told her she ‘did not want to die’ a matter of days before her death

Her mother added that her daughter's inspiring last weeks were in 'one way the best' the family shared. Pictured: Deborah with family including her mother, Heather, father Alistair, husband Sebastien and two children, 14-year-old Hugo and 12-year-old Eloise, and brother and his fiancée

Her mother added that her daughter’s inspiring last weeks were in ‘one way the best’ the family shared. Pictured: Deborah with family including her mother, Heather, father Alistair, husband Sebastien and two children, 14-year-old Hugo and 12-year-old Eloise, and brother and his fiancée

Paying tribute to the presenter of the BBC podcast You, Me And The Big C’s charity work, she told BBC Breakfast: ‘I still find that amazing that she had the love of the people out there. And that meant a lot. That’s meant a lot to the family and it still does.’

Deborah is pictured in hospital during her final hours where smiles and holds her thumb up in a final farewell from hospital, maintaining her positive spirit until the end

Deborah is pictured in hospital during her final hours where smiles and holds her thumb up in a final farewell from hospital, maintaining her positive spirit until the end

‘How can you not love what she did in those eight weeks. And it did help knowing other people loved her and wanted to help in anyway they could.

‘I said to her “I don’t know what I’m going to do when you go”. And she went. “You will continue and you will enjoy life”. 

‘And I went “But I don’t know if I can”. And she went: “Then you haven’t done me justice”. 

‘So I think we all have to. Not just live life, enjoy living life. And live it to the best we can. So I think we owe that to Deborah.’

After revealing she was moving onto hospice care at her parents’ home in Woking, Deborah was made a dame, with Prime Minister Boris Johnson saying: ‘If ever an honour was richly deserved, this is it.’ 

Later she said it felt ‘honoured and shocked’ to be considered for the honour. The bowel cancer campaigner was then personally conferred by the Duke of Cambridge in May during a surprise visit to her parents’ house

Ms James said of William:  ‘He put us so much at ease when he came in. You know, it was amazing. And he was just like one of my son-in-laws, he just sat down with us. He was so lovely, I think he is a people’s king.’

Deborah made the most of her time, going for days out, which were exhausting due to her condition. However, she remained positive, and posted about how much she enjoyed outings, like this one to Royal Ascot

Deborah made the most of her time, going for days out, which were exhausting due to her condition. However, she remained positive, and posted about how much she enjoyed outings, like this one to Royal Ascot

In May Deborah James was made a dame by the Duke of Cambridge with William praising her for 'going above and beyond to make a very special memory'. Her two children Hugo, 14, and Eloise, 12, and her husband Sebastien were by her side

In May Deborah James was made a dame by the Duke of Cambridge with William praising her for ‘going above and beyond to make a very special memory’. Her two children Hugo, 14, and Eloise, 12, and her husband Sebastien were by her side

Heather often took part in her daughter's viral TikTok challenges from hospital - which usually involved dancing

Heather often took part in her daughter’s viral TikTok challenges from hospital – which usually involved dancing

Dame Deborah, also known by her social media handle Bowel Babe, had been raising awareness about the disease until her death on June 28 at the age of 40

Dame Deborah, also known by her social media handle Bowel Babe, had been raising awareness about the disease until her death on June 28 at the age of 40

Heather, a mother-of-three and grandmother-of-four, has praised her daughter's campaigning

Heather, a mother-of-three and grandmother-of-four, has praised her daughter’s campaigning

Deborah knew she would marry her husband after their third date, she said, telling her children she fancied Sebastien from the day they first met

Deborah knew she would marry her husband after their third date, she said, telling her children she fancied Sebastien from the day they first met

Heathe, who was by her daughter’s side throughout her bowel cancer journey and filled in for Dame Deborah when she was too ill to go to events, said: ‘I think the hardest thing was knowing she was going to die.

‘My heartache was knowing as a mother I couldn’t do anything about that and I think that was the hardest thing for me to cope with.

‘Knowing that she was getting weaker but stronger mentally but weaker bodily and I couldn’t help her.

‘We had some good times. I can remember lying in bed probably just about a week or so before she died. And she was quite poorly that night.

‘And she went “I do love you” and I went “I love you” and she went “I have no regrets you know”.

‘How many people can say that? But she did say “I don’t want to die” and that’s the hardest, saddest part.’

Heather was by her daughter's side throughout her bowel cancer journey and filled in for Dame Deborah when she was too ill to go to events

Heather was by her daughter’s side throughout her bowel cancer journey and filled in for Dame Deborah when she was too ill to go to events

A recent Instagram story shared by the cancer campaigner revealed that her father brushed her hair, with Deborah saying she had 'no strength' to do it

A recent Instagram story shared by the cancer campaigner revealed that her father brushed her hair, with Deborah saying she had ‘no strength’ to do it

Dame Deborah James told her children telling them to 'take a chance and back yourself' and asked them to experience life now instead of waiting until they were older, in a final piece of advice written in the upcoming book How To Live When You Could Be Dead

Dame Deborah James told her children telling them to ‘take a chance and back yourself’ and asked them to experience life now instead of waiting until they were older, in a final piece of advice written in the upcoming book How To Live When You Could Be Dead

Since the amazing Bowel Babe campaigner, who inspired a nation with her podcast chronicling her struggles with the disease, a record 30,000 more people went for referrals between May and July in 2021.

According to the NHS, between the months of May and July, 170,500 people referred for checks for checks for suspected lower gastro-intestinal cancers, which is also nearly 80,000 higher than the same period two years ago.

Figures also showed referrals for bowel cancer hit an all-time high in the second week of July, shortly after Dame Deborah’s death, up 60% on pre-pandemic levels.

The last three months also saw almost 200,000 more visitors to the NHS website to check symptoms of the disease. She had been raising awareness about the disease until her death on June 28.

Genevieve Edwards, chief executive of Bowel Cancer UK, told BBC Breakfast today: ‘From the moment Deborah was diagnosed and right until the end of her life, she campaigned tirelessly.

‘She was a phenomenal campaigner, and you can just see the impact that she’s had there with people coming forward.

‘And if those thousands of people who’ve come forward, the majority of them probably won’t have bowel cancer, but for those that do, that’s lifesaving.

‘I’ve spoken to so many people with bowel cancer who’ve felt that they’ve had the confidence to go and tell their own story now because Deborah did so.

‘You know, she communicated so well and connected and they felt that they’ve been able to go.

‘So it’s all of those little conversations, like ripples in a pond, that will keep going, and that’s really important because bowel cancer is not an easy one to talk about.’

On May 9, the mother-of-two shared a heartbreaking 'goodbye' message to her 470,000 Instagram followers, revealing she was being moved into hospice-at-home care, while 'surrounded by family', because 'my body simply isn't playing ball'

She since went on to launch a clothing collection and raise over £6.5 million

On May 9, the mother-of-two shared a heartbreaking ‘goodbye’ message to her 470,000 Instagram followers, revealing she was being moved into hospice-at-home care, while ‘surrounded by family’, because ‘my body simply isn’t playing ball’

Heather, 64, laid her daughter to rest at St Mary's Church in Barnes, south west London (Pictured centre with grandchildren Eloise and Hugo and son-in-law Sebastian to her left)

Heather, 64, laid her daughter to rest at St Mary’s Church in Barnes, south west London (Pictured centre with grandchildren Eloise and Hugo and son-in-law Sebastian to her left)

According to the NHS, between the months of May and July, 170,500 people referred for checks for suspected lower gastro-intestinal cancers

According to the NHS, between the months of May and July, 170,500 people referred for checks for suspected lower gastro-intestinal cancers

Her husband Sebastien Bowen (pictured in 2019) has spoken about the difficulties of the last few months he spent with the former deputy headteacher, whom he married in France in 2008

Her husband Sebastien Bowen (pictured in 2019) has spoken about the difficulties of the last few months he spent with the former deputy headteacher, whom he married in France in 2008

Lauren Mahon and Deborah James (left)

Dame Deborah with her brother and his fiancée after they got engaged

Deborah (pictured, far left, with Lauren Mahon and, right, with her brother and his fiancée) was made a dame by the Duke of Cambridge at her family home, with William praising her for ‘going above and beyond to make a very special memory’

In reference to her daughter’s children, Ms James said: ‘They’ve been amazing. I think Deborah did instill in them to enjoy their life. 

‘And even though they miss her and they do miss her. They are living it because it’s what mummy wanted. The legacy she’s left will also be amazing and is something we’re also proud of as a family.’

Deborah also told her children to ‘take chances and experience life now’ and to marry for love in a heartbreaking final letter. 

‘Take a chance and back yourself. Remember to be your number one cheerleader,’ she told them in a passage from her book, How To Live When You Could Be Dead, seen by The Sun, set to be released on August 18.

‘Don’t leave the world and all it has to offer until retirement — experience it now.’

Her husband Sebastien Bowen spoken earlier this month talked about the difficulties of the last few months he spent with the former deputy headteacher, whom he married in France in 2008.

Mr Bowen told the Times: ‘She was making the most of every last moment. But that was her. That is how I will always remember Deborah – the ability in the worst of times to embrace life.

‘More than anyone I know she loved life, even more so when it became so short and each minute counted.’

He went on: ‘She was so weak she couldn’t do much on her own, which she found frustrating as she was naturally fiercely independent.

‘She was paralysed at the end from her waist down and had to deal with the psychological battle of the reality of her new handicap. She couldn’t even go to the kitchen to get food or clean or dress herself.

‘I’m not going to pretend it was easy. It was a new experience for all of us and we had to find our feet, but it also brought us closer to her and to each other.’