Susanna Reid grills ex-Post Office minister over Paula Vennells CBE
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This is the second Susanna Reid grilled an ex-Post Office minister over the choice to grant Paula Vennells a CBE.
MP Paul Scully, who was the postal affairs minister from 2020 to 2022, was put within the scorching seat when he appeared on Good Morning Britain to debate the Horizon scandal, through which tons of of Post Office employees had been wrongfully accused of theft and fraud.
Ms Reid requested Mr Scully ‘who in authorities thought it was acceptable’ to award Mrs Vennells a CBE in 2019 regardless of an ongoing authorized case being introduced in opposition to the Post Office to exonerate the individuals convicted of crimes.
The MP for Sutton and Cheam replied saying he had ‘no concept’ as Ms Reid went on to ask why he did not elevate any issues over the honours award himself when he was made publish workplace minister only a yr later.
It comes as victims of the scandal joined the extra a million individuals who known as for Mrs Vennells to be stripped of her honour earlier than the previous Post Office boss right this moment introduced she would hand it again.
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This is the second Susanna Reid grilled an ex-Post Office minister over the choice to grant Paula Vennells a CBE
![Paula Vennells was awarded a CBE in 2019. There are now calls for her to have it removed](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/09/09/79787067-12942045-image-a-32_1704791679560.jpg)
Paula Vennells was awarded a CBE in 2019. There are actually requires her to have it eliminated
![More than 1 million have signed a petition calling for the former Post Office chief executive officer to hand back her CBE](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/09/09/79787065-12942045-image-a-33_1704791758826.jpg)
More than 1 million have signed a petition calling for the previous Post Office chief govt officer at hand again her CBE
More than 700 Post Office employees had been falsely prosecuted based mostly on faulty information from the agency’s Horizon laptop system, which was developed by Fujitsu.
Some these individuals had been despatched to jail after being convicted of false accounting and theft, some had their funds left in tatters and a few won’t ever see justice as they’ve since died.
A public inquiry into the scandal is because of resume proof hearings this week, with witnesses for Fujitsu – the corporate behind the Horizon IT system – anticipated to seem later this month.
Mr Scully defined his place on the scandal, telling Ms Reid: ‘First of all what I’ve been desirous to do, particularly once I was minister establishing the inquiry, I needed to ensure we get these solutions however I needed it to be completed throught the enquiry.’
Ms Reid then requested: ‘Have you requested who reccommended Paula Vennells?’ to which the MP replied ‘I have never completed that but’.
Mr Scully continued: ‘But I shall be doing that becuase it goes by means of cupboard workplace and there may be an honours committee that need to approve that.
‘There is an unbiased committee but it surely’s not notably clear.’
Ms Reid then added: ‘More than a million individuals have mentioned that she ought to be stripped of her CBE and everytime, with all due respect Paul Scully I’m glad you are right here this morning and I do know lot of this occurred earlier than your watch.
‘But everytime we speak to somebody they are saying “well there’s an inquiry so we’ve done that and we think it’s really important that people answer questions” but it surely’s been happening..for the reason that Nineties.’
![Mr Scully was put in the hot seat when he appeared on Good Morning Britain to discuss the Horizon scandal](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/09/09/79787889-12942045-image-a-35_1704793068550.jpg)
Mr Scully was put within the scorching seat when he appeared on Good Morning Britain to debate the Horizon scandal
![Mrs Reid asked him: 'Have you asked who reccommended Paula Vennells?' to which the MP replied 'I haven't done that yet'](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/09/09/79787883-12942045-image-a-36_1704793096436.jpg)
Mrs Reid requested him: ‘Have you requested who reccommended Paula Vennells?’ to which the MP replied ‘I have never completed that but’
![Yesterday it was revealed Mrs Vennells (pictured in 2022) can have her honour removed if she is deemed to have brought the honours system into disrepute](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/09/09/79788301-12942045-image-a-48_1704793807416.jpg)
Yesterday it was revealed Mrs Vennells (pictured in 2022) can have her honour eliminated if she is deemed to have introduced the honours system into disrepute
In a press release asserting she was handing again her CBE, Mrs Vennells mentioned: ‘I proceed to help and deal with co-operating with the Inquiry and anticipate to be giving proof within the coming months.
‘I’ve up to now maintained my silence as I thought of it inappropriate to remark publicly whereas the Inquiry stays ongoing and earlier than I’ve supplied my oral proof.
‘I’m, nonetheless, conscious of the calls from subpostmasters and others to return my CBE.
‘I’ve listened and I verify that I return my CBE with quick impact.
‘I’m actually sorry for the devastation brought about to the sub-postmasters and their households, whose lives had been torn aside by being wrongly accused and wrongly prosecuted because of the Horizon system.
‘I now intend to proceed to deal with helping the Inquiry and won’t make any additional public remark till it has concluded.’
It comes after calls for for her to return the honour intensified after an ITV drama returned the widespread miscarriage of justice to the highlight.