Robert Rinder modified his anti-death penalty view after Nazi analysis
- Barrister and TV star researched into England’s last hangman Albert Pierrepoint
- He executed 200 Nazis, including one who tortured TV star’s grandfather
- His great-grandparents and other relatives were murdered by Nazis at Treblinka
Barrister and TV star Rob Rinder says he changed his anti-death penalty stance after finding out about the executioner who hanged a Nazi responsible for his grandfather’s torture.
The presenter’s grandfather, Morris Malenicky, escaped the death camps because he was a teenager and capable of working – so forced into slave labour at Buchenwald concentration camp instead.
Mr Rinder’s Jewish ancestors – great grandparents, as well as four great aunts and a great uncle – were murdered at Treblinka death camp during the Holocaust.
As part of research for his latest programme, Britain Behind Bars: A Secret History, Mr Rinder, still a member of the Bar although not currently practising, found out about one of the country’s last and most famous hangmen Albert Pierrepoint, who executed 200 Nazis, as well as a string of notorious UK murderers.
The 46-year-old said his experience as a defence barrister has always made him a staunch advocate of Article 2 of the Human Rights Act – the right to life – and against state executions.
![Barrister and TV star Rob Rinder says he changed his anti-death penalty stance after finding out more about Albert Pierrepoint, the executioner who hanged a Nazi responsible for his grandfather's torture during the Holocaust](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87413929-13640669-image-a-21_1721155310516.jpg)
Barrister and TV star Rob Rinder says he changed his anti-death penalty stance after finding out more about Albert Pierrepoint, the executioner who hanged a Nazi responsible for his grandfather’s torture during the Holocaust
![As part of research for his latest programme, Britain Behind Bars: A Secret History, Mr Rinder, researched into one of the country's last and most famous hangmen Albert Pierrepoint](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87413429-13640669-image-a-22_1721155358258.jpg)
As part of research for his latest programme, Britain Behind Bars: A Secret History, Mr Rinder, researched into one of the country’s last and most famous hangmen Albert Pierrepoint
![Executioner Albert Pierrepoint who was responsible for hanging a string of notorious UK murderers, as well as 200 Nazis - including one responsible for torturing Rinder's grandfather during the Holocaust](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87413367-13640669-image-a-23_1721155407748.jpg)
Executioner Albert Pierrepoint who was responsible for hanging a string of notorious UK murderers, as well as 200 Nazis – including one responsible for torturing Rinder’s grandfather during the Holocaust
But finding out about how Pierrepoint dispatched one of Buchenwald’s commanders, ‘responsible for torturing my grandfather’, Mr Rinder said: ‘It changed my view (against capital punishment).
‘It made me less confident (and see) that the issues are complex.’
Mr Rinder’s grandfather Mr Morris, a Lithuanian Jew, arrived in Britain as one of 300 ‘Windermere children’ – orphans who survived the Holocaust and were brought to the Lake District.
The television star, speaking at the Buxton International Festival, Derbyshire, learned about Pierrepoint while filming at Shrewsbury’s historic former prison for his latest series, currently showing on Channel 4.
He said the programme director invited him to read a two-page summary about Pierrepoint, who was appointed to be one of the hangmen after the Nuremberg trials of senior Nazis following the end of World War Two.
The first page was about the hangman as a person, including a grim tale of how he executed a string of prisoners on one day ‘two by two’, adding: ‘I did it early, because I wanted to be home to have my supper in time.’
But Mr Rinder recalled how the director then urged him to ‘have a sip of Scotch’ before turning over the page to find a list of the notorious criminals Pierrepoint had dispatched at the gallows – including Nazi figures.
![Robert Rinder's grandfather Morris Malenicky was forced into slave labour at Buchenwald concentration camp during the Holocaust. Pictured: Morris with his wife Lottie](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87413423-13640669-image-a-24_1721155569171.jpg)
Robert Rinder’s grandfather Morris Malenicky was forced into slave labour at Buchenwald concentration camp during the Holocaust. Pictured: Morris with his wife Lottie
![Turning point: Rinder said he changed his views on the death penalty after finding out more about British executioner Albert Pierrepoint (pictured in 1973 writing his memoirs)](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87413349-13640669-image-a-25_1721155661901.jpg)
Turning point: Rinder said he changed his views on the death penalty after finding out more about British executioner Albert Pierrepoint (pictured in 1973 writing his memoirs)
![A photograph of Nazis on trial for war crimes and sentenced to death by a British military court after the Second World War. They were executed by hanging on 13 December 1945 at Hamelin prison by British executioner Albert Pierrepoint](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87413397-13640669-image-a-26_1721155736600.jpg)
A photograph of Nazis on trial for war crimes and sentenced to death by a British military court after the Second World War. They were executed by hanging on 13 December 1945 at Hamelin prison by British executioner Albert Pierrepoint
‘One of them was at Buchenwald, who was personally responsible for torturing my grandfather.
‘The director asked me, ‘so what do you think (of capital punishment) now?’
The programme, which began last week, saw Mr Rinder visit three prisons in total, also including Dartmoor, Devon, and Shepton Mallet, in Somerset.
![Robert Rinder previously researched his family history in BBC's Who Do You Think You Are (pictured) - and learnt his grandfather's entire family was wiped out at Treblinka in Poland](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87414291-13640669-Robert_Rinder_previously_researched_his_family_history_in_BBC_s_-a-29_1721156094503.jpg)
Robert Rinder previously researched his family history in BBC’s Who Do You Think You Are (pictured) – and learnt his grandfather’s entire family was wiped out at Treblinka in Poland
The barrister spoke out against repeatedly sending prisoners to jail for short periods without proper rehabilitation.
He said: ‘What’s fascinating in terms of short-term sentences is we’ve been doing the same thing again and again over the years, expecting a different outcome, which is the definition of madness.’
During the talk, Mr Rinder also confirmed he would be filming another series of The Grand Tour, with fellow television presenter Rylan Clark – which has been rumoured since the first series aired in May.
Asked by an audience member about his next project, he replied: ‘The next series will be another tour with Rylan. I don’t think it’s been announced (yet).
‘I don’t make telly for telly’s sake. There’s a reason we went on the Grand Tour – we were exploring something personal for ourselves and it was something cultural as well.’
But as well as exploring art and culture in Rome, Florence and Venice, Mr Rinder told how he and Mr Clark came under homophobic abuse – and had to be saved by four elderly women.
He likened the ‘four Nonnas’ to Roman soldiers, saying they formed a ‘Praetorian Guard’ around the pair in Venice and walked them to St Mark’s Square after they were insulted while being filmed dressed in drag.
![Mr Rinder has confirmed he will be filming another series of The Grand Tour, with fellow television presenter Rylan Clark](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/16/19/87414443-13640669-image-a-30_1721156199522.jpg)
Mr Rinder has confirmed he will be filming another series of The Grand Tour, with fellow television presenter Rylan Clark