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You were the original force behind Bluesky. Are you happy with it now?

No, because it’s gone to the other ideology. I left the board. It started taking investment from VCs and building like a normal company. I understand why, but it’s not what I signed up for, and it’s not why we created the project. We created it to be an open protocol for everyone, not to be something that’s against Twitter or against other social media. The largest issue right now is the algorithmic filter bubble.

Do you think that AI is going to render obsolete our current system of funding and building companies?

It challenges the norm completely. Every company that’s not building itself as intelligence is going to face something existential, and it’s going to happen over the next year or two. That’s what weighs on me every single day—this thing could just go away completely. So, yes, like, it certainly changes funding, it changes social media, changes learning. There’s no technology that’s compounded this quickly.

You seem to live a different lifestyle than other CEOs. It’s not really clear where you live or in what country.

We’re a fully remote company, so I just work wherever feels right for the moment, not necessarily overseas. I’m in the US a lot, wherever I feel most creative. And we meet when we need to meet, and at that time, in-person is really great.

I hear meditation is a big part of your day.

It’s one hour of my day, but we have 24 hours in the day. I do think it’s helped me, and it helps everyone that has tried it. Just being able to take on a lot of stress and not be reactive.

How are you viewing the big AI companies these days?

It’s incredible how quickly they’re moving. My concern is that the switching costs between the models is fairly low, if not zero. You’re seeing that play out with [the Pentagon’s switch from] Anthropic. I don’t think you’re going to lose much in terms of capability by going between one or the other, and I think that’s very, very telling.

Are you supporting Anthropic on the red lines it’s drawn over the use of its products?

I appreciate the principle and their standing behind it. I think that’s right.

As we went to war with Iran, I remembered our trip to Baghdad. Did you flash back to that, too?

I’ve thought about that a few times. It’s a little crazy that we had that experience together. It just feels like we keep repeating these things over and over again.