MS NOW host Nicolle Wallace tore into podcaster Joe Rogan on Wednesday for saying on his show that he can see “both perspectives” surrounding President Donald Trump’s hard-line immigration agenda.
The “Deadline: White House” host invited MS NOW senior contributing editor Michele Norris and Media Matters president Angelo Carusone on her show to discuss this.
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Norris predicted that Trump is going to lose some Republican support as a partial result of “the horrors” in Minnesota involving U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers, one of whom recently shot and killed 37-year-old Minneapolis resident Renee Nicole Good.
The federal presence in Minnesota runs “counter to a bedrock conservative value” of states’ rights, Norris said, at least for those conservatives who appear to have changed their stance about the Trump administration.
“Joe Rogan is the one who compares that conduct to the Gestapo, asking for people’s papers,” said Wallace.
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But she clarified: “I’m not ready to call him someone who is sort of marching in lockstep with the protesters, because it is the most ‘both sides’ BS that I’ve heard come out of his mouth.”
To illustrate her point, Wallace went on to play a clip from Tuesday’s edition of the “Joe Rogan Experience.”
Speaking to the upheaval in Minnesota, Rogan remarked on his show, “I see both perspectives. I see the perspective of the people that say, hey, there was an illegal program moving people in here to get votes, moving people in here to get congressional seats, and we’ve got to change that.”
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But he eventually conceded: “I can also see the point of view of the people who say yeah, but you don’t want militarized people in the streets just roaming around, snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be U.S. citizens, they just don’t have their papers on them.”
He later asked, “Are we really going to be the Gestapo … Is that what we’ve come to?”