- Terrorist husband of ISIS bride is unmasked
- Filmed at a protest talking about bombs
- Wife Kirsty Rosse-Emile is begging to come home
- Do you know more? Email charlotte.karp@dailymail.com.au
The terrorist husband of an ISIS bride who wanted to make explosives instead of going to school has appeared in unearthed footage arguing about bombs at a protest.
Moroccan national Nabil Kadmiry was in his 30s when he married child bride Kirsty Rosse-Emile, who was 14 at the time, at an unofficial ceremony in Melbourne in about 2009.
Five years later, he withdrew his superannuation to take them both to Syria, where they pledged allegiance to Islamic State.
The Australian government stripped him of his citizenship before he was captured during the territorial defeat of IS in 2019 and detained in a Kurdish prison, where he’s believed to remain today.
Rosse-Emile, 31, is now one of 11 women begging the Albanese government to rescue them and their 23 children from squalid refugee camps in Syria.
She claimed she and her two surviving children wanted to put terrorism behind them and were ‘ready to start our lives fresh’, but even her own father doesn’t believe her.
Daily Mail previously revealed Rosse-Emile told her former housemate Sara* in 2010, four years before she joined IS, that she wanted to ‘make bombs’ instead of furthering her education.
Footage unearthed by the Daily Mail now shows her husband Kadmiry chanting the terrorist catchcry ‘Allahu Akbar’, which translates to ‘God is greater’, during protests against the Global Atheist Convention in Melbourne in 2012.
Pictured: Nabil Kadmiry, left, in white, argues with a group of atheists
Kirsty Rosse-Emile, who married IS fighter Nabil Kadmiry when she was 14 years old
Nabil Kadmiry is pictured in the middle of a protest at an atheist convention
The convention was headlined by evolutionary biologist and prominent atheist Richard Dawkins, along with astrophysicist Lawrence Krauss who has since appeared in the Epstein files.
In the video, Kadmiry could be heard having theological arguments with atheists and telling them science was baseless.
He then started talking about explosions in a particularly terse exchange with a male member of the atheist convention.
‘An explosion happens,’ Kadmiry said.
‘Sorry, what?’ the man asked. ‘Are you talking about a bomb? This guy just made a bomb threat, he started talking about explosions.’
Kadmiry continued: ‘What happens after the explosion? … A bomb goes off, what happens after the explosion? There’s mayhem and sawdust…’
The rest of the conversation was drowned out by shouting from both sides of the protest.
At one stage, the atheists started screaming: ‘Brainwashed.’
Nabil Kadmiry is pictured protesting against an atheist convention, chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’
Protesters held signs that read ‘atheism = hellfire, Islam = paradise’
One inflammatory sign read: ‘Message to infidel Ayaan Ali Hirsi burn in hell forever’
Kadmiry replied: ‘No, you are brainwashed.’
Protesters held signs that read ‘atheism = hell fire, Islam = paradise’, ‘Islam is the only monotheistic religion’, and ‘Islam is the answer’.
One inflammatory sign read: ‘Message to infidel Ayaan Ali Hirsi burn in hell forever.’
Ayaan Ali Hirsi is a Somalian activist who grew up in a Muslim family, but later became fierce critic of the religion and Sharia law, describing it as a ‘cult’. She published a book in 2006 called Infidel.
At the time of the protest, Kadmiry and Rosse-Emile are believed to have been living at a controversial Islamic study centre called Al-Furqan.
The centre was closed years later in 2016, when a number of members were raided by counter-terrorism police – one was shot and killed by police, while two others joined IS in Syria.
Rosse-Emile previously claimed she was tricked 12 years ago into entering the war zone with Kadmiry, but last year refused to explain to the ABC how she ended up in Syria because it ‘could create problems for me’.
Instead, she begged the Australian government: ‘Hello, I’m here. Can you just come and get me, finally, and my children and all the other Australians here?
Kirsty Rosse-Emile is pictured, left, with other ISIS brides attempting to travel from Al Roj refugee camp, in Syria’s northeast, to the capital Damascus in February
Pictured: Kirsty Rosse-Emile, crying while telling the ABC she was tricked into going to Syria
‘We’re ready to start our lives afresh.’
Supportive statements about IS can still be seen on Rosse-Emile’s Facebook pages, uploaded before she left for Syria.
The posts read, ‘Jihad. The only solution’ and ‘Lions of Islam’, overlaid with images of terrorist figures.
Her father last year responded to Rosse-Emile’s claims that she was tricked into entering Syria, telling The Nightly that his daughter was lying.
‘When she said, “Oh, I was tricked” and all that, it’s not true,’ he said.
‘In the way of Islam, when we go and fight for the cause of Allah, either you’re victorious or you are vanquished, but you don’t surrender, because it’s one of the greatest sins that somebody could [commit].
‘I’m a Muslim. I tell the truth. I am not going to lie to anybody. Allah will punish me if I lie.’
He said the Australian government should settle the refugees in a Muslim country like Turkey.
Kirsty Rosse-Emile is pictured in a niqab before she left Australia for Syria with her husband
Pictured: The squalid conditions at Roj Camp in Syria, where women and children live in tents
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Her former housemate Sara* told the Daily Mail that Rosse-Emile, who was then known by her Islamic name Asma, knew exactly what she was doing when she joined IS.
In 2010, when Rosse-Emile was about 17, she stayed in a self-contained unit attached to Sara’s place, on the outskirts of Melbourne, when a mutual friend asked if she wanted to return to school.
‘Asma turned around and said, “I don’t want to go to school, I want to go and make bombs”,’ Sara recalled.
Sara said it didn’t matter if Rosse-Emile truly intended to live a quiet life in Australia; it would be difficult for her to shed her extremist beliefs.
The Australian Federal Police launched an investigation into Rosse-Emile after Daily Mail’s initial report, and contacted Sara about the situation last Tuesday.
Other Australians fighting to return home include Nesrine Zahab and her aunt Aminah Zahab and cousin Sumaya Zahab, along with Kawsar Abbas and her daughters Zeinab and Zahra Ahmed, Janai Safar, Hodan Abby, Kawsar Kanj and Hyam Raad.
*Name has been changed.